should all canine therians be expected to be dogmasters?

[KaiYoDei]

I use the word "dog master" to explain those with seemingly instinctive canine training and knowing them.

so, it is it safe to assume all "in tune with thyself" canine therians, mostly of course dogs, have a nack for dog training and psychology?

for when there are stories of "a kid was in his yard, a loose dog ran into the yard, now the kid is dead" for a dog theiran to gather evidence and "well, because I too am a dog, I know exactly what may of happened, however, I am my own dog so don't take my word for it"

and still of course, expert training. "ah, I know how to get a dog to be unafraid of road cones, and why are"

or is this just going to be like a raciest stereotype (example "She is Asian, she will be a math genius"

otherwise, what kind of dog are you if you don't understand your people? Is it because a human brain

[Seraphyna]

Regardless of theriotype, all therians are human. Thus, we will interact with other animals as such. Having a certain theriotype doesn't automatically mean you can communicate with that animal or that the animal will "like you". Cats tend to hate me, but I'm a lion therian. Dogs and I, on the other hand, seem to have an understanding.

Honestly, it's just something of a stereotype.

[Haru'Shimo]

Hello KaiYoDei,
As Seraphyna said, it's just a stereotype, like any other.

Our perceptions of "what it is like to be a ___________" are still subject to human interpretation. Even if completely accurate and verifiable, we'd logically have no greater advantage in interacting with an animal that matched our kintype than another of the same animal.

So if a dog is aggressive to humans and other dogs, a human who identifies as another dog wouldn't be any better off. :\
At best, an individual 'in tune' with themselves would be more focused on body language than someone who doesn't regularly interact with the animal, but that would be about it.

[kaijara]

I do well with dogs, but I do well with all animals in general. I'm gonna be a vet because of it. Smell and such is super important. As wolfish as my soul may be, I don't smell like one and my body language is being displayed by a human body. even if I act more canine, it is probably mixed up by that. I think it is all stereotypes

[KaiYoDei]

I just think I saw some times, on other places

"dogs like me and I understand them because I am wolf/coyote/fox/canine/dog and am good at traning" maybe some of these were liars with puffery, making people assume being a horse in the human body will guarantee horse communication or understanding their mind.

or some who make it like "I can talk with them"

maybe it is one of those "hi, i'm 12, bear hearted, elephantkin and fiction kin to Spryo the dragon" kind of deal
like the therians who look like fools bragging about mental shifts in public that result in growling and snapping at people

[Haru'Shimo]

@kaiyodei,
Many of them, yes.
However, it's easy to see connections where there aren't any, particularly if an individual wants to see them as validation for something.

Many of these people likely are good with dogs, and it may be simply because of how they approach and treat the animal.
In comparison to someone less sympathetic to animals, there could be a noticeable difference. Being Therian likely adjusts the person's attitude towards the animal, and in turn how they treat them, but there's no evidence to suggest that it's something as mystical as the animal recognizing them as another canine that can't be explained in more standard ways.

[House of Chimeras]

A therian of a certain theriotype doesn't always know everything about their theriotype or know the true nature of the animal in every way compared to what mainstream society thinks they know about the animal. (After all, look at a verity of wolf therians who do not understand how wolf social behavior works.)

Also, even if they do know about their species' behavior, not all canines act the all same way. Even just among certain breeds of domestic dog alone, they all have their own temperaments. Expanding larger into the various actual species of canine, their behaviors become even more diverse.

- Pantairin

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May 19, 2015 18:27:20 GMT Haru'Shimo said:

@kaiyodei,
Many of them, yes.
However, it's easy to see connections where there aren't any, particularly if an individual wants to see them as validation for something.

Many of these people likely are good with dogs, and it may be simply because of how they approach and treat the animal.
In comparison to someone less sympathetic to animals, there could be a noticeable difference. Being Therian likely adjusts the person's attitude towards the animal, and in turn how they treat them, but there's no evidence to suggest that it's something as mystical as the animal recognizing them as another canine that can't be explained in more standard ways.

What Haru says is a very likely explanation.

With that said, I think that it may be possible for some therians to pick up on certain cues. This is, however, rooted in my personal belief in the collective unconscious, which contains the memories and attributes (both social and physical) of all things. If someone is very connected to an animal, due to being directly connected to its archetype, I think it may be possible for them to access some of that information. However, it's also just as likely that this isn't true, and that they are simply acting on information that they picked up somewhere. Regardless, both possibilities involve one's unconscious mind. In the end, it may not matter where it comes from. (Note: I'm still in the process of studying Jung, as well as the wolf archetype. I do not know everything, and I can very well be wrong about things. What I share is merely my beliefs and understanding at this moment in time, they are subject to change as I learn more about them, and should in no way be taken as any sort of gospel. If you find it interesting, by all means, do your own research.)

It is also worth pointing out that being a therian/otherkin is different for everyone. There isn't a single aspect of it that is automatic proof of someone's potential "kin-ness." Also, if you come across those who point to something like this, declare it "magical," and insist, beyond the shadow of a doubt, that it validates them, then I would be wary. While this does not automatically invalidate the individual, it is certainly cause for skepticism (this does not, however, mean that you should treat the person poorly!). The moment when any of us stop questioning ourselves and/or refuse to consider other possibilities, that is when we have a problem.