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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2012 7:07:40 GMT
Only recently have I come across the actual term "Therian" but since I was little, as in 2d grade little, I've always known I'm not "Human" spiritually. Looking back after I knew what Therinathropy, and Therianthropic behavior looked like, I am aware that I would M-Shift at my elementary school all the time. Every recess everyone in our grade would play freeze tag. All of my friends, my "Pack", would use our coats to built a "Den" in the corner of the field, and then to "Hunt" we would play freeze tag (which was Boys vs. Girls) often times we would end up tackling the boys or tagging them rather violently. Very rarely someone would get hurt, but I though nothing of it until now when I understand that that was an M-shift. After elementary school, I was still friends with most of my "Pack" as we went to the same middle school. Even though nobody played freeze tag, we would often play wrestle each other, and go around on all fours during lunch. This continued from 6th to 8th GRADE, 8th GRADE! People started thinking we were "Not right in the head" which I assure you, all of are perfectly fine mentally. Anyway, since then, I haven't ever really gone through an M-shift, and lately I've recognized it's because I'm afraid too. If I do, I feel like I might hurt someone, or be loud enough to attract attention. My hunting instinct is incredibly strong, especially when I have phantom limbs, and it feels really uncomfortable, uncontrollable, and scary. The only place where I could find an area with enough solitude to let loose is in the mountains, as I live in a big city. Even then, the area is restricted and I feel as though in my Therian state, I might not remember the boundaries I set for myself in my "Human" state. If ANYONE has any advice on how to cope in any way, please do comment. Thank you
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Post by Doppel on Jan 14, 2012 7:47:16 GMT
Welcome to TW, OpalWyvern. Hope to see you around the forum. I wonder, would it be possible for you to try and calm yourself down and meditate for a moment? It might help in trying to control your "other" side. Letting it loose is fun and great, and I specially go to the forests near my city if I really need to. While you are at it, why not head over to the Member Introductions and introduce yourself to everyone? :3
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2012 11:26:21 GMT
@opal
Like yourself, I've only just discovered the term 'therian' and 'otherkin' in the past couple years. Also, as a child, I usually had my 'otherkin instincts' flare up. I actually had a lot of that behavior linger throughout in my high school years (though not prominent, but it was still visible to those that knew me). However, in my early high school years, I hid my mental shifts from the public, but didn't force them out entirely as it happened at some times at home. Then, my family didn't like that 'immature' behavior, and I resorted to only express my 'otherkin self' through mental shifts alone.
From my personal experience, I used to not 'let out' my otherkin side of me for time, during my high school years. When I pushed that side away, I didn't know who I was most of the time and that led me to a depressed and confused state (that also seems to be the wrong thing to do especially since the teen years is when a person tries to figure out 'who they are').
My best advice (since you're afraid to do them, as of now) is to slow down and keep your heart rate down if you're going in the process of a mental 'shift'. If you start to get overly anxious or excited, just take a step back and breathe. That, I believe, is a good time to meditate and go over what happened. Figure out what your mind and body can take before you get afraid from it. Ease into the mental shifts.
For phantom shifts, I believe, the best way is to have them appear (when you feel uncomfortable/ unsure about them) during meditation. That way, your mind and body are in a calmed state. When you start feeling your phantom limbs, just take note that they are there and if they start to 'disappear' after a few moments, let them. It's just like I said for mental shifts, gradually ease your mind and body to be familiar with the whole thing. Just keep yourself steady.
As for your boundaries, I'd say that your boundary is where you feel most comfortable and confident. You got to believe in yourself in order to have things not get out of control/ become afraid. If you want to have more prominent 'shifts', then you got to gradually ease yourself into doing them and not dive headfirst.
I live in the big city as well and I don't even have mountains nearby to go. The closest thing I have is a park and even then, that is insanely small. My alternative is to be in my house in my 'safe place'. Meditation along with sounds of the outdoors really pulls me out of the city and into the wilderness.
Meditation is good in all aspects. If you have any spirit guides, then you may want to talk with them as well. Good luck to you and I hope that my suggestions will help.
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Post by Railaybara on Jan 14, 2012 15:55:38 GMT
@opal Rail would probably be better with advice on this, but I think that even if you suppressed it it would become worse. There may be a way to cope with it, like thinking to relax and not do that. I don't think you'd be able to get around it honestly. -Alastor
Well, I agree a lot with what Mist said. Meditation is key not only for getting used to phantom limbs but to also relax and maybe find something of a barrier type of things from the pain and such that happens when you get phantom limbs. Meditation, and just finding a way to relax and not do all of what your instincts do? I know a lot of what I want to do i usually don't because I can't in the situations I was in. -Rail
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Post by Re Harakhti on Jan 14, 2012 17:24:51 GMT
@opal
As a side note, I need to stress that comments like this;
"so I don't want to hear any **** about that in the comments."
are not necessary at all.
This is a serious community that doesn't indulge in childish comments referring to others as 'crazy' or 'not right in the head'. I can understand that you may have experienced this kind of attitude at school or elsewhere online, and it can be hard defending yourself in a new community. But you can rest assured that people here are more interested in assisting you than insulting you.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2012 17:27:50 GMT
Thank you everyone. I'll be sure to try this stuff, and hopefully meditation might help with me phantom limbs, which I am mostly having trouble with at school due to the fact that I think they might be triggered by the almost "Pack" enviroment made by all the people and their various auras and energies. I've also recently come across the idea for lucid dreaming, which I feel that if I could master that, than I would feel A LOT better. I'm going to try every idea I can. Currently, because I'm starting to feel the effects of supressing it for too long. Thank you everyone, and I'll continue to leave the thread open for other ideas as well.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2012 18:23:21 GMT
@opal As a side note, I need to stress that comments like this; "so I don't want to hear any **** about that in the comments." are not necessary at all. This is a serious community that doesn't indulge in childish comments referring to others as 'crazy' or 'not right in the head'. I can understand that you may have experienced this kind of attitude at school or elsewhere online, and it can be hard defending yourself in a new community. But you can rest assured that people here are more interested in assisting you than insulting you. I am super sorry. This is actually cut and copyed from something I asked on Yahoo Answers because it was long, this was late, and I really didn't feel like completely re-typing it. I cut out a couple things that weren't neccisary for this forum, but I forgot to cut that out. Sorry again, I'll modify the post.
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Post by Doppel on Jan 14, 2012 20:13:17 GMT
@opal
There's a lot of meanies on Yahoo Answers, sadly. It used to be a good discussion site, but thanks to idiots who think screwing with people is funny, it is no good anymore for a lot of questions.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2012 20:35:10 GMT
@ Opal I just wanted to say that I’ve definitely been there too. It was right around when I started high school (which for me is 7th grade) that I became really disconnected with myself. However, all through elementary school it was “easier” to be myself because of people thinking it was just some childish phase. I didn’t know it had a name like M-shifting or whatever at the time, but I knew what I was feeling was way more spiritual than other kids who were obviously just pretending. I had the same hunter’s instincts you’re talking about and would have to me told a few times more than the others to “snap out of it” or whatever words they used, and then I would feel sad because I wasn’t myself anymore. Then, like you said, high school came and the ignorant public began to spout of their opinions that it was either nonsense or “not right in the head” which just made me feel more insecure and disconnected. All the time I should have spent meditating and getting in control of myself and caring about myself, I ended up thinking I was insane or some kind of monster at worst. The high school age and setting is not at all suited for spiritual development I find, there’s too many conflicting things in that growing period that it can really mess you up for a few years. It’s not un-recoverable though, so try not to feel so down about it. Like the others here have said, meditation would be super helpful (honestly, I think it’s helpful for everyone). What you seem to need, judging by this post and your introduction, is control. Correct me if I’m wrong here, but you seem to want to go back to that “being yourself” state like you were in elementary school but in a way that frees you rather than just gets people giving you a bunch of negativity. I also lived in a city for a long time, and only now just found a nice town with a pleasant balance of nature and urban spaces. So the safest place I found to practice control was my room. You need a place where you feel safe, and although running around in the mountains would be perfect for some, you need to work with what you’ve got. Also, don’t feel afraid of the notion of “control.” For a long time I used to think that I didn’t want to control myself because it would mean I’m losing myself and my instincts, but in fact control is one of the most freeing things you can do for yourself. Anyway, all this to say don’t worry, I’ve been there and hopefully after getting used to meditation you can feel happier. If you ever want to chat just send me a PM .
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2012 21:18:46 GMT
@notori: You have accurately described my therianthropy through growing up as well. Except around 9th grade I sort of boxed my horse-side away into an almost separate personality (now I just use 'Horse' as a name to refer to my kin-side) in order to live *ahem* "normally". @opalwyvern: When Horse starts wanting "out" I usually do a lot of self talk and let myself go slowly. I don't cut the rope and take off running, I just start out slow. I'll go through and mentally elaborate on my phantom limbs, and then I'll slowly let myself M-shift and let Horse walk around the room, or investigate the furniture, or wander about, and then once I'm comfortable with that I might jog/run around or go for a run in the woods or play with our dogs. When it comes to being uncomfortable with something, it's important to just take baby steps. Although it may be different for me since my kinside and myself are sort of set up like a multiple system, even though I'm only me. If that makes sense. I apologize if I am confusing. x3
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2012 0:17:58 GMT
Thanks again everybody, this site is absolutely fantastic, and is just what I needed in a Therian community.
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