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Post by Railaybara on Jul 22, 2011 18:21:23 GMT
Alright, so I've been dealing with these things that I assume are night terrors for many, many months now. They have been getting better until last night. Since I work all the time, and don't get much sleep to begin with..and last night I desperately needed sleep. My body was forcing my eyes closed, or getting in that state you get in where you're really tired. But that didn't stop the terror from dragging me down, from me not being able to wake up from it. Usually I'm able to remember the terror, which are the interesting dreams I tell some of you about. But I don't remember this one at all, and so perhaps it's getting worse before it truely gets better. I guess what I'm asking is...what do you think is going on? Or should I do? I just want everyone's input, I'd be willing to share more information if you ask. I just want as much advice as I can get. -Rail
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Post by mateustheferal on Jul 23, 2011 1:33:11 GMT
Railay, I think I can understand what you are going through. I am almost never able to sleep without having nightmares or night terrors, and have had insomnia for a few months. Recently I have hung a dream catcher over my bed and so far the bad dreams have slowed down. Sometimes I find that completely exhausting my body(through exercise) will allow me to get some good sleep. It doesn't always work though. Sorry I can't be of more help.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2011 16:28:13 GMT
@rail Try to find a way to get a longer sleep schedule. I've found that people who suffer from Night Terrors, also suffer from different versions of insomnia. Here I found something that would probably help you understand a little better, because Night Terrors happen during the 4th stage of the NREM cycle. Stages of Sleep: REM and Non-REM Sleep When you sleep, your body rests and restores its energy levels. However, sleep is an active state that affects both your physical and mental well-being. A good night's sleep is often the best way to help you cope with stress, solve problems, or recover from illness. What Happens During Sleep? Sleep is prompted by natural cycles of activity in the brain and consists of two basic states: rapid eye movement (REM) sleep and non-rapid eye movement (NREM) sleep, which consists of Stages 1 through 4. During sleep, the body cycles between non-REM and REM sleep. Typically, people begin the sleep cycle with a period of non-REM sleep followed by a very short period of REM sleep. Dreams generally occur in the REM stage of sleep. What Is Non-REM Sleep? The period of NREM sleep is made up of stages 1-4. Each stage can last from 5 to 15 minutes. A completed cycle of sleep consists of a progression from stages 1-4 before REM sleep is attained, then the cycle starts over again. Stage 1: Polysomnography (sleep readings) shows a reduction in activity between wakefulness and stage 1 sleep. The eyes are closed during Stage 1 sleep. One can be awakened without difficulty, however, if aroused from this stage of sleep, a person may feel as if he or she has not slept. Stage 1 may last for five to 10 minutes. Many may notice the feeling of falling during this stage of sleep, which may cause a sudden muscle contraction (called hypnic myoclonia). Stage 2: This is a period of light sleep during which polysomnographic readings show intermittent peaks and valleys, or positive and negative waves. These waves indicate spontaneous periods of muscle tone mixed with periods of muscle relaxation. The heart rate slows and the body temperature decreases. At this point, the body prepares to enter deep sleep. Stages 3 and 4: These are deep sleep stages, with stage 4 being more intense than Stage 3. These stages are known as slow-wave, or delta, sleep. If aroused from sleep during these stages, a person may feel disoriented for a few minutes. During the deep stages of NREM sleep, the body repairs and regenerates tissues, builds bone and muscle, and appears to strengthen the immune system. As you get older, you sleep more lightly and get less deep sleep. Aging is also associated with shorter time spans of sleep, although studies show the amount of sleep needed doesn't appear to diminish with age. What Is REM Sleep? Usually, REM sleep occurs 90 minutes after sleep onset. The first period of REM typically lasts 10 minutes, with each recurring REM stage lengthening, and the final one may last up to an hour. Polysomnograms show brainwave patterns in REM to be similar to that recorded during wakefulness. In people without sleep disorders, heart rate and respiration speed up and become erratic during REM sleep. During this stage the eyes move rapidly in different directions. Intense dreaming occurs during REM sleep as a result of heightened brain activity, but paralysis occurs simultaneously in the major voluntary muscle groups. REM is a mixture of encephalic (brain) states of excitement and muscular immobility. For this reason, it is sometimes called paradoxical sleep. The percentage of REM sleep is highest during infancy and early childhood. During adolescence and young adulthood, the percentage of REM sleep declines. Infants can spend up to 50% of their sleep in the REM stage of sleep, whereas adults spend only about 20% in REM. How Much Sleep Do You Need? The amount of sleep a person needs depends on the individual. The need for sleep depends on various factors, one of which is age. Infants usually require about 16-18 hours of sleep per day, while teenagers need about 9 hours per day on average. Most adults need about 7-8 hours of sleep per day. The amount of sleep a person needs also increases if he or she has been deprived of sleep. People do not seem to adapt to getting less sleep than they need. What Are the Consequences of Too Little Sleep? Too little sleep may cause: Impaired memory and thought processes. Depression. Decreased immune response. Sleep deprivation also magnifies alcohols effects on the body, so a fatigued person who drinks will become much more impaired than someone who is well-rested. Sleep deprivation also increases pain perception on pain simulation testing. Caffeine and other stimulants can temporarily overcome the effects of severe sleep deprivation, but cannot do so for extended periods of time. Reviewed by The Sleep Medicine Center at The Cleveland Clinic. (Taken from: www.webmd.com/sleep-disorders/excessive-sleepiness-10/sleep-101?page=1 ) What Causes Night Terrors? Night terrors are caused by over-arousal of the central nervous system (CNS) during sleep. This may happen because the CNS (which regulates sleep and waking brain activity) is still maturing. Some kids may inherit a tendency for this over-arousal — about 80% who have night terrors have a family member who also experienced them or sleepwalking (a similar type of sleep disturbance). Night terrors have been noted in kids who are: overtired or ill, stressed, or fatigued taking a new medication sleeping in a new environment or away from home Night terrors are relatively rare — they happen in only 3-6% of kids, while almost every child will have a nightmare occasionally. Night terrors usually occur between the ages of 4 and 12, but have been reported in kids as young as 18 months. They seem to be a little more common among boys. A child might have a single night terror or several before they cease altogether. Most of the time, night terrors simply disappear on their own as the nervous system matures. (Taken from: kidshealth.org/parent/general/sleep/terrors.html# ) I hope this all wasn't too much to read, but I myself suffer from Night Terrors, and so far just getting away from stress seems to have pretty much cured them, except the occasional few that happen here and there. Hope this helps and such! Though the last resource was based on the study of children, it converts up to the more teen and adult stages as well. - Sce
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Post by Railaybara on Jul 23, 2011 19:50:30 GMT
@mateus Sometimes it feels like I'm astral projecting, or whatever it's called. It's weird.
@sce Mmmm, so basically I need to stop working so much and stop being so stressed. With your night terrors, can you wake up from them? Or do they drag you back down into the terror, almost. -Rail
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Post by mateustheferal on Jul 24, 2011 2:21:26 GMT
@railay I'm not sure if I've ever actually astral projected. Sometimes it feels as if I am, or might have. Quite often I think I'm asleep but then I realized that I've been staring at the clock for two hours. Stress can also play a major part in sleeping problems, but stop being stressed is easier said than done lol.
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Post by Railaybara on Jul 24, 2011 4:10:44 GMT
@mateus I'm just at a point of exaustion at this point, haha. Could astral projecting be part of it? -Rail
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2011 5:15:31 GMT
@ Rail
My terrors, depending on what is involved in the dream I can be pulled back into them, into a paralyzed state that when I close my eyes I lose all control of my muscles and body functions. Though when I get the ones I wake up from, it is normally because someone moves and makes enough noise to create an anchor of sorts to pull me out of them.
Also, being exhausted, stressed, overworked play a massive role in both the dream state, and sleeping. (As they both influence each other as well) Astral Projecting can affect it, but I've not really had experiences with it, except in the dreams where I become paralyzed in reality. Its like I'm being sucked out of my body and trapped into the vortex which is my Night Terror.
Though pretty much, try to remodel your day to day activities so you aren't as stressed and overworked. And try to sleep more! Granted it may be hard, but trust me, even an hour extra of sleep makes the world of difference.
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Post by Railaybara on Jul 24, 2011 14:03:09 GMT
@sce I wish I could be pulled out of them, that'd be nice. Can they feel like you're astral projecting, though? I'll see what I can do. -Rail
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2011 7:34:02 GMT
@rail
Yes, they can feel like astral projection, because (in my own experiences) I'm aware that I'm in my body in most of my terrors, yet my nervous system (and brain) feel that the night terror is real. Though there are the few terrors where I feel as if I'm being detached from myself and sucked into my own mind (lets just say that for simplicities sake) and this is where the paralyzed feeling comes into play for me. Like, I know I'm suffering a terror, but I can't move, or wake up to get out of it, because I'm not back in my body. It sounds a little strange, but it feels almost as if you are being tugged like a rubber band, and then let go and you are wobbling in and out of your body and randomly lose use of limbs in which you are projecting out of yourself.
I wish I could explain it better, but do you understand where I'm trying to go with it? I hope it answers your question better than my previous post. I try to wait till I'm actually awake to reply with integrity, but this is kind of important, because I too suffer from Night Terrors.
And good. The less you have to deal with each day, the more likely you can repel (or not have altogether) your night terrors.
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Post by Railaybara on Jul 25, 2011 14:32:35 GMT
@sce I don't even know I'm suffering one while I'm in one, haha. So, you can't get out because you don't have control of your body basically?
I usually don't. But this time I astral travled in my sleep, and I know for a fact that it was this. Luckily I have spirit friends to help me get back to reality. -Rail
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2011 2:32:45 GMT
@ Rail
Clinical night terrors are not dreams at all, just the feeling of fear. And it only comes when someone wakes up. So I would guess they're really bad nightmares.
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Post by Railaybara on Jul 26, 2011 2:42:00 GMT
@seric Maybe, I don't know a lot of medical terms. I'm not scared atleast, so it probably isn't them at all. I don't know. -Rail
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Post by mateustheferal on Jul 26, 2011 13:44:54 GMT
@railay It might be nightmares then, I looked up some stuff and Seric is right. Night terrors also have symptoms like these: Sudden awakening from sleep, persistent fear or terror that occurs at night, screaming, sweating, confusion, rapid heart rate, inability to explain what happened, usually no recall of "bad dreams" or nightmares, may have a vague sense of frightening images. Many people see spiders, snakes, animals or people in the room, are unable to fully awake, difficult to comfort, with no memory of the event on awakening the next day. Whatever it is, I think it can be helped somewhat by less stress. You might even need a bit of a change in your sleeping habits. Like what time you go to bed/wake up, and whether or not you read or listen to music in bed. Apparently doing non-sleep things in bed can make your mind not see the bed as just for sleeping/resting. This site has some nice tips: www.helpguide.org/life/sleep_tips.htm
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Post by Railaybara on Jul 26, 2011 14:30:55 GMT
@mateus I can't wake up from them, I can't scream and my body doesn't have any strenuous activity. I remember these bad dreams perfectly, my memory is like they are like real life. I might look at them. -Rail
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2011 1:37:40 GMT
@ Rail
It's nightmares then. Those are usually caused by a problem in your life, so I suggest meditation.
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Post by mateustheferal on Jul 28, 2011 2:36:13 GMT
@seric I second that remark.
Must be nightmares, possibly recurring too. Those are always horrible, and can do more damage seeing as "normal" nightmares only occur once in a while. I hope, Railay, that you'll be able to find a way to fix your problem. Losing sleep is seriously no fun at all. -Mateus
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Post by Railaybara on Jul 28, 2011 4:00:56 GMT
@seric Meditation makes the nightmares worse.
@mateus Thank you. The best I can do is keep trying. -Rail
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Post by mateustheferal on Jul 28, 2011 14:09:10 GMT
@railay If things do start to mess you up too badly though, you should try to see a doctor. They might be able to give you better advice. Sleep deprevation is nothing to mess around with, but keep trying for awhile and hopefully things will even out. -Mateus
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Post by Railaybara on Jul 28, 2011 14:44:57 GMT
@mateus Well, sometimes I get a good nights sleep and other times I don't... -Rail
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2011 19:44:49 GMT
@rail
Sorry for taking so long to re-look at this, but I was doing some more reading, and Mateus is right on the symptoms, and though "usually" most people don't remember Night Terrors, some do, its just rare for it to happen.
And the more you tell me what your symptoms of the dreams are like, the more I have to agree that they could be just nightmares on a more frequented scale.
I can say this, because I wake up in the middle of the night sometimes crying/screaming/scratching at my face/etc, and not knowing a single reason why. Then most times I wake up with a cold sweat also, and having a slight tendency to jump out of my bed to punch the wall as if someone was there to attack me.
Though, I'd again have to agree with Mateus though, because you might need to see a doctor, as they would more than likely have the best advice for you.
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Post by Railaybara on Jul 28, 2011 22:45:18 GMT
@sce No worries. Yeah, I know the feeling for those..and I'll check it out when I have the time. -Rail
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Post by mateustheferal on Jul 29, 2011 14:15:04 GMT
@rail Let us know if there are any improvements or anything. -Mateus
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Post by Railaybara on Jul 29, 2011 15:56:52 GMT
@mateus Well, last night I slept pretty good. Maybe it depends on what happens during that day. -Rail
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2011 4:20:27 GMT
@ Rail
Have you tried methods that calm you before sleep? Such as music, lavender, a shower?
If I saw something that frightens me during the day and are to afraid to sleep, I think of something calming that I love. Usually I retreat to my headspace and spend time with my headmates. You are multiple, right? You could try that.
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Post by Railaybara on Aug 11, 2011 12:16:28 GMT
@seric Only tried to music part, but I have a lot of varieties of music and such. So, it will go from screamo to classical to video game music and so on. The music helps me to sleep, just not to stay asleep and get good sleep. Does that make sense? A shower does sound nice, I might have to try it. I do that sometimes, these guys are awesome. Maybe I'm just overtired is my problem. -Rail
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